This is How Credit is Lost

Even though my ‘ldb’ is still included the poster on this site gave credit to another artist, mistakenly. It happens when someone is a little careless, or not careful enough. From there it moves on in time and the original artist is unclear and very likely it will end up posted by ‘anonymous’ artist because that’s easier than trying to find the original artist. It must happen this way for all kinds of art. In time it is impossible to know who created anything. The individual is lost but, it is nice, that their creations remain.

What is an Archivist?

I’ve been interested in keeping old content and what happens to content once the source is gone, for a long time. In particular, web content, since the days I was an editor with the Open Directory Project. I liked finding sites which disappeared. Often I could find them again, on their own domain or from their own domain to a free service like Blogger. I liked tracking them down. It was an adventure and something I could feel pleased about. Not every site could be found again. Often, they were abandoned too. Content still there but no one maintaining it.

There are so many other issues when it comes to preserving online/ web content. Consider the web host the site is on. When payments to the host stop it isn’t long before the domain expires and the site will go missing. What happens to your own sites, social media and whatever else you’ve got, if you die? I think about that too. Mine would all just be gone and not all that missed. But, I’ve written it mostly for myself and my own satisfaction, something new to learn.

I’ve got archives of ASCII art. Loads of it but all a mess, not organized. I try to sort it but soon decide my methods are not working well and no one will actually find anything. Plus, there is the problem of how to display it. ASCII art works in plain text files but does not show up on an HTML site (very well or easily) that way. I’ve had people bitch, complaining that it isn’t really ASCII art if it’s shown in an image file versus plain text. Well, whine on, but you don’t have the headache of trying to make it work.

Anyway, so much for keeping on point…

 

I’d like to know more about how web content is being archived and what people are doing with the content they save. How is it being stored? Is it viewable by anyone? What about copyrights? So many questions… what is an archivist

via- The Association of Canadian Archivists

ASCII Train Posted without Linkback

trainpostednocreditI noticed my ASCII art train posted to this site while I was looking to see if anyone else has posted ASCII art for the New Year, 2015. I sent a note to the site owner because the train is posted without a link back to my site or even the site where the image was found and is still linked to for downloading. Not good to steal bandwidth. Also, the source site is a friend of mine. I wrote a post for her and added my ASCII as images for illustration with the post. I did not give them away for anyone to upload and offer them as free. I think people still don’t really understand copyrights online.

I don’t mind the ASCII art being displayed on another site. Not so keen on having it offered for distribution as freeware. It isn’t freeware, it isn’t free really, other than free to look at. I think it is fair to expect a linkback along with the ASCII art image. I don’t think that is asking or expecting too much. Of course, I feel especially strong about this depending on how the site uses the ASCII art. If a commercial/ business site uses ASCII art they should track down the artist and offer to pay for the art. I have more leeway with personal sites.

Anyway, will see what happens in this case. I sent a note, tried to write with all the details. If you look at the site the information about copyrights and asking for your art to be removed makes it seem they are holding the art hostage and expect the artist to do everything they ask (as they ask) just to hear back from them. I don’t know if they meant it to sound that way, but that was how I felt as I read it. (See below).

Copyrights have never been a simple thing online. I see the issues as both a web publisher and someone who creates original content which gets stolen, borrowed and so on. Kind of a good thing to have more than one point of view about it all in one head.

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About Copyrights


Martin Atkins wrote:

> the way I see it, it's not anything to do with amount of characters changed,
> it's whether the picture generally resembles the original. If I wanted to be
> pernikety (although I don`t, since I can`t even spell the damn thing) I
> could claim that face thing to the right of Meph's sig as a slight mod of my
> portrait, since which it has different characters it still looks like my
> pic.
>
>
> |||||
> | o o |
> | > |
> | _/ | <--- My mini-me > ___/
> __| |__
>
> Meph's sig......
> +===================================================+ ,,,,,
> I _,,,_ __ __ ___ ___ _ _ I.|_ _|.
> I / o o |M / M| |E__| |P_ | || | ASCII I(| O-O |)
> I > § < | |/| | | _| | _/ | HH | & more I | I | > I __/_/ |_| |_| |E__| |_P |_||_| ~~~~~~ I | _/ |
> I I ___/
> I http://studenten.freepage.de/meph/ascii/ascii.htm I I
> I I _M_/
> I http://studenten.freepage.de/meph/index.html I W
> +===================================================+ _/ _
>
> ,,,,,
> .|_ _|. |||||
> (| O-O |) | o o |
> | I | | > |
> | _/ | | _/ |
> ___/ ___/
> Meph! Mart!
>
> |||||
> | _ _ |
> ( o o )
> | > | <--- one of my original versions as seen on > | _/ | one of my first sigs in a.a-a.
> ___/
> ___| |___
>
> Similar huh?

Huh, really similar !!! I didn't be aware of this. And there is an other
illegal thing: The signature contains a 'No, no, no MUSTN'T use'-character.
Before I begin to draw a new signature let me tell you a little story in
my broken English ...

+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
| In a near future, in a unknown land live two persons called |
| |
| M A R T I N & M A R C |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+

||||| ,,,,,
| _ _ | .|_ _|.
( o o ) (| O-O |)
| > | | I |
| _/ | | _/ |
___/ ___/
I I
_M_/ _M_/
W W
_/ _ _/ _
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
/'./ / / / /'./ / /'./ / / / /'./ / /'./ / / / /'.

+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Once upon a time it so happens that Martin meets Marc and both make|
| a dreadful discovery |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
___________________
.' '.
( Is it a mirror or... )
'.___________________.'
O O
o o
|||/ . . .,,,,
| o o ,,
[ _ < ], | < >- |
___) (___/
I I
M_/ _M
/W W
_/ _ _/ _
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
/'./ / / / /'./ / /'./ / / / /'./ / /'./ / / / /'.

+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
| This was no lucky day for the poor Marc. Martin knows much about |
| copyrights and he makes a incredible demand ... |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
.' Hey, You are look like me ! My parents have "developed" me'.
( in 19xx and we own the copyright of this body ! Hereby I )
'. forbidden you to use this body longer !!!!!! .'
'._________________ ___________________________.'
__ __/ .' Oh no, his parents'.
_ _/ O ( have the copyright !)
)/ o '.___________________.'
|||/ // . .,,,,
| o // o ,,
[ _ < ], | < .___, >- |
___) |Law|| (___/
I |~~~|| I
M_/ |___|; _M
/W W
_/ _ _/ _
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
/ / /'./ / / / / / / /'./ / / / / / / /'./ / / /

+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
| At the beginning Marc was very depressed, but than he had a genial |
| idea ... |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
.' Oh my god, I'm lost. What should I do ?'.
____________ : They will arrest me, because there is :
'. : no way to change my body ... or ..... :
I give you : : May be this is the solution !? :
one day ... : '._______ ________________________________.'
_ _____.' (_)
_ _/ o ,,,,,
( |||// o .|_ _|.
o |// .(| O-O |)
< ]/ | I '| > | | - '| <- Tears ! (___/ ___/ I I _M _M_ W / W _/ _ _/ _ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ / / / / /'./ / /'./ / / / /'./ / /'./ / / / /'./ / +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Early at the next morning he goes to the Genetic Institute and sold| | himself as 'guinea pig'. A few hours later he leaves the institute | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ ||||| | _____________ ||||| | Let's see ||||| | want Martin ) ||||| ___ says... ____/ ||||| || ____ __/ ,,,,,,,. ||||| || ( _/ ____ ,,, ||||| || _/ (O ) ) ||||| || (o __ / +------------+ ||||| +-|| ____/ / | GENETIC | ||||| || ____ / | INSTITUTE | ||||| || ( ( ||/| University | ||||| ___|| / ( )+-----++-----+ ____|||||_____/ ( ____/ / II __| ||||| ___________/ II __| _/______ _// _ II | (_________) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~II~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /'./ / / / /'./ / /'./ / / / /'./ / /'./ / / / /'. +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The meeting with Martin was very successful for Marc ... | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ ________________ / / ? ? / I believe the copyright problem (? ? Äahm ...?? ) ( is solved ?! What do you think ) ____ ? ? / about my new body ??? / __ ? ?_/ __ _______________________/ |||/ _ ?_/ _ __/ ,,,,,,,. |||// )/ ( _/ _ ,,, |||/ // _/ (o ) ) | (O // (o / [ > ____/ /
| -< ____ / ___) ( ( ||/ I / ( ) M ( ____/ / _/W_ ___________/ _/ _ _// _ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~'~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /'./ / / / /'./ / /'./ / / / /'./ / /'./ / / / /'. +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Since this moment, Marc's life change and his new body makes him | | very happy. He became a star and marries a girl from the Muppets- | | show | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ __ __ ( / ) / ~~~~~ / ~~~~~~~~ (/) / (/) ,,,,,,,. ~~~~ _ / / _/ _ ,,, ~~~ < o> _ _/ (o ) )
__ ~~~ _ o} (o /
(__) ~~~ _____/ ____/ /
(_()_) ~~~ ____/ ____ /
(__) ~~ ) (_ _ ( ( ||/
~ / *}*} / ( )
____/ _/_/ ( ____/ /
__________/ ___________/
_// _ _// _
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~'~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
/ / / / /'./ / /'./ / / / /'./ / /'./ / / / /'./ /

+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
| But this is not a Hollywood story and after many years Marc made a |
| unbelievable meeting on a holiday trip at loch ness ... |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
|||||||/// /Hey, You are look like me !
_ _ |||||||// ( My parents have .... )
(_ _//) ____ _ ___ ______________________/
__//// ( ( 0) _ /_/
//// ____o] // ,,,,,,,.
_ _/ <___ _/ _ ,,, ) ) ____/ .___, _/ (o ) ) ( ( ) ) _|Law|| (o / ) ) ( ( /_|~~~|| ____ / ( ( ) ) / _|___|; ____ / ) ) ( ( / / ( ( ( ( ) )___/ / / ) ) ( _______/ ( ___ ( ( ) ) _________ ) ) ( ( ____________ _//___ __ _ _( (_ _ _ _ _ ) _) _ _ _ / / / / /'./ / / / /~_/~_/~_/~_/~_/~_/~_/~_/~_/~_/~/ /'./ / / / /'./ / ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~('./ / /'./ / / / /'. THE END IMPORTANT : - The design of Martin's body is copyright by his parents - The design of Martin's ASCII body is copyright by Martin - The design of Marc's body is copyright by my parents - The design of Marc's ASCII body is copyright by ... - The design of Nessy's body is copyright by his parents - The design of Nessy's ASCII body is copyright by Marc - The design of grass pattern is copyright by Hilton Janfield - ... Ok., think this is enough about copyrights. I really don't want any discussions about my signature. The figure will be removed although I didn't copy it. I hope you didn't take this story serious and aren't anry about the NOT 'slight mod' (?!?) of your portrait. Good wish for the new year... MARC PS. You have send the first answer to my link request and now you are on the first position in my link list. Thanks for the nice sample. +===================================================+ I _,,,_ __ __ ___ ___ _ _ I I / o o |M / M| |E__| |P_ | || | ASCII I I > P < | |/| | | _| | _/ | HH | & more I I __/_/ |_| |_| |E__| |_P |_||_| ~~~~~~ I I I I http://studenten.freepage.de/meph/ascii/ascii.htm I I I I _M_/ I http://studenten.freepage.de/meph/index.html I W +===================================================+ _/ _

Stealing Code

Is it really stealing if you’re just using the basic idea and adapting it for your own. So much of creativity is based on taking something you’ve seen and changing it or trying to illustrate it for others to see. I really like the layout of this site, selling embroidered goods. I like the colours and the three column layout and things are placed well in the design too. So I copied the code and took a screen capture so I can try to emulate it myself. Maybe I won’t even use the code, just the screen capture as a guide. But, I wondered how much of doing what I’ve just done is ‘legal’ or ethical? It’s a question for lawyers in part. Mainly, for me, it’s what I think is ok to do, where I draw the line.

Copyrights is an interesting issue. When you first look at it, it seems kind of bland and dull. Then consider all the angles, all the ways we break copyrights everyday and all the different things which can be copyrighted. It may not seem to have any effect on your life, but it does. Especially if you create any kind of content on the web. How would you really feel if something you wrote, drew or sang, etc. appeared somewhere else, taken by someone and presented as if it were there own? Sometimes I think so what. But, it does but me too. I’ve had some of my ASCII Art stolen and been claimed to be created by someone else. It’s annoying to read someone else congratulate them for a great piece of work, when it’s my work.

Anyway, that’s the blab for the day.